You write the lyrics, someone else writes the tune. Who owns the copyright?
In the triangle of lyricist-composer-producer, various copyrights are generated on which royalties are payable. But who gets the lion's share?
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"Are melody (songwriting?) and music (mixing?) two separate things copyright/royalty wise? I'm asking you this because I am a lyricist and what I do is write the lyrics then have a demo mixed by someone who also adds the vocals (my lyrics) to the track.
"Upon completion of this I may give my star producer the demo version, he changes it heaps and turns it into a pro mix, improves the song by being a co-writer and creates a proper melody and music mix (finished track).
"What is copyright/royalty of the person that does the demo, is his/her contribution songwriting (e.g. co-melody writer) or music only (e.g. co-mixing/arranger)? I don't understand the distinctive difference between melody and music. I know if you permanently buy all the rights to a demo mix (all rights including copyright/royalties) there is no issue. But what happens if the person who mixes the demo doesn't sell you all its rights? What would be owing to him/her from the finished product? Co-Writing credit or a share of producer royalties, or both?"
I hope I am understanding this correctly. You write the lyrics and someone else who is composer writes the melody. The composer also makes the demo recording. Then you take the demo to a producer who improves the demo and turns it into a finished track.
It is vital to remember that there are two separate and distinct copyrights here - one in the song and the other in the recording. If the song had never been recorded, then copyright in the song would exist (as long as it is written down). And if someone records your song (which in the US they can do without your permission, on payment of a standard royalty, if it has already been released previously), then they own the copyright in the recording.
So, up to the point of the demo, you and your composer share ownership of the copyright of the song in whatever proportions you have agreed - usually 50/50.
The next part is the gray area. It is normally considered to be one of the functions of the producer to improve the song. This could be by rearranging the order of the sections. Or it could be by suggesting that you rewrite some of the lyrics.
In either of these cases, you and the composer still own the copyright in the song entirely.
However, if the producer rewrites some of the lyrics himself, he could be entitled to claim a share of the copyright of the finished song.
Unless it is agreed whether or not this will be the case, then you are storing up a problem for the future when the song becomes successful. You could end up in court deciding the ownership of the copyright, and the lawyers will get most of the money!
So you have to get an agreement in writing one way or the other. My preference would be for the producer not to get any share of the copyright of the song unless a specific further agreement was made.
So if he rewrites one line, then he doesn't get a share. If he rewrites half of the song he can suggest that you give him a co-writing credit. And if you don't agree, then he might not let you use his lyrics, which clearly are his at this stage.
Summary... GET IT IN WRITING!
Now, the recording...
There is a separate copyright in the recording and you need to be sure who owns this.
You can't assume that you own it simply because you are paying the producer a fee for his time. There may be a clause in the producer's standard terms of business that states that he owns the copyright, or perhaps a share of it. Or the legal system wherever you live might automatically grant the producer copyright, like a wedding photographer keeps copyright in their photos, even though they have been paid to take them.
So the producer could be paid a fee for his work, and you have an agreement that states that in return for this fee, the copyright in the recording is yours. Or you could agree a producer royalty, but the copyright would still be yours. It is not in your interest to allow any share of the copyright in the recording to remain with the producer.
Summary... GET IT IN WRITING!
The world is full of horror stories concerning copyright. Does anyone have a story to tell us?
Publication date Saturday April 17, 2010
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Monday April 19, 2010
Sunday April 18, 2010
¿What are words with out a melody?
¿What are words with a melody? = a song.
Friday April 16, 2010
A producer normally makes his deal with the record company for his percentage before the project ever starts anyhow. Once again, do not give anyone the rights to your music, (especially Managers, Publishers, Record Companies etc, always keep your rights to the music). If you work with a partner, it is okay to share the profits at whatever percentage you both agree to. However, even in this circumstance you give up controlling interest.
Lets say you give your partner 10%, at this point you have no final say, as to what happens with the song. Now you must deal with your partner.
Example:
My partner, and I wrote a song with two other songwriters a few years back. Once the song was completed, the other two songwriters wanted to place the song with Jobete’s Publishing Co. (Motown). We on the other hand wanted to place it with our Publishing Co. The other writers threaten us by using the old twisting of the arm tactic, (Either you sign the release, or the song will be placed on the shelf. If you like to know more about the pit falls of the music business, feel free to contact me.
Friday April 16, 2010
Friday April 16, 2010
It's just one example, but I think the name of the game here is to talk it over and be fair. Most folks don't get their panties in a bunch if they are getting credit for their work. It kinda feels like a premarital agreement when you do it, but those work too.
Friday April 16, 2010
Friday April 16, 2010
Friday April 16, 2010
One got a 1/2 demo cd, the other got naught.
Believe me these songs are right up there with the best.
So nothing signed .....where does that leave me.
I'd love to get that stuff out there.
Friday April 16, 2010
Friday April 16, 2010
Friday April 16, 2010
Friday April 16, 2010
All depends how established you are as a lyricist or a composer. In my early days I wrote a song a complete song that I now own 12% of because the artist would not let it go on the album unless he had 50% and his publishing company wanted 30% and 18% went to a spanish interpreter. It was a number one too.
You can argue the breakdown of 1/3 split to the music, 1/3 to the top melody, and a 1/3 to the lyricist. These days alot of the production becomes writing too. The point is one influences the other.
So dont be greedy and try and make an amicable split.
Friday April 16, 2010
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