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What happens when you don't get a credit on a recording you have worked on?

Suppose you worked on a recording, but you didn't get a credit. Would this matter to you? You bet it would!

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One of the thorny issues of record production is that of credits. To a casual purchaser, 'Produced by...' means little or nothing. But to the people involved, credits are everything.

If you are credited on a successful project, even if it's just 'Castanets by...' then you have something you can trade with. You can ring people in the business and say, "I played castanets on...". If your credit was on a significant hit record, then you'll be listened to.

The problem is, as exemplified by a situation recounted in 'Tony Visconti: the Autobiography', that people don't decide beforehand who is going to be credited for what.

And then when the record or CD comes out, some people are going to be disappointed. Often bitterly.

The example from Tony Visconti's book is of Paul McCartney's 'Band on the Run', which is probably the best album from his post-Beatle years.

Visconti and McCartney apparently sat at a piano and worked out some rough ideas for string arrangements (Visconti is a skilled arranger and orchestrator). McCartney wanted some of his ideas reproduced verbatim, others were left extremely vague.

So Visconti went off and wrote the arrangements, which is a complex and detailed task. Humming a melody takes no time at all. Sitting down and writing a score is an altogether weightier process.

The arrangements were overdubbed onto the tracks already recorded by McCartney and the band. One evening, McCartney came round to Visconti's house with a copy of the tapes.

Visconti commented that he was eager to hear his arrangements. McCartney curtly responded that they were not Visconti's arrangements, they were McCartney's arrangements. Thus reducing Visconti's role to that of a mere mechanical.

There was no credit for Visconti on the record.

Some time later, Visconti met John Lennon for the first time and, deep into the conversation, remarked how disappointed he had been not to get a credit for Band on the Run.

Lennon responded, "Even if I whistled a part to an arranger, and it was my idea, I would still give the arranger a credit as orchestrator." And on Band on the Run, Visconti had done much more than that.

Lennon continued, "I was about to call Paul tomorrow and get together with him, but you just reminded me of what a f****** c*** he is."!

All's well that ends well, as Shakespeare said, and Visconti finally did get a credit on the 25th anniversary edition of Band on the Run.

But twenty-five years is an awful long time to wait...

Publication date Sunday March 21, 2010

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3n3rdy5t4
Thanks for recommending Tony Visconti's book - you did that in an article some 2-3 years ago. I then quickly rushed to the next book shop and ordered myself a copy. It was well worth reading it. I would not have come across it if you hadn't recommended it.

Saturday March 27, 2010

Larance, Tampa, U.s.a.
...then there are the times when you're hired, you produce the project, deliver, receive wonderful acceptance for the work, then, THEN my client's client says if any audio tracks are from outside their country they'll be cut. I did all I was hired to do and not only didn't get credit for any work but didn't even get paid by my client, er, ex-client. Lesson learned? Yes. Stay at home, boy. And I do, now.

Thursday March 25, 2010

Cors, Cork, Ireland
Hi
The McCartney/Visconti article is unfair. If you read McCartneys book "Many Years from Now", you will read of McCartney's acknowledgements of ideas given to him by various people over the years. What Lennon supposedly said is hearsay, it would be something he MIGHT have said, but we can't be sure.It's in his verbal style but it could be inaccurate!
I am a fan of Lennon's, by the way.

Regards
C.Corcoran

Thursday March 18, 2010

Jason Baillie, Townsville, Australia
I have been collaborating with many of the musicians here and found this article helpful as Ive made lots of parts and melodies to many songs for quite a few musicians in helping them develop their music, and some of them have done the same for me. So there is a lot more to consider when It come to song writing and who you include to credit for what :) Luckily nothing has been recorded professionally yet, so no discrepancies. But I'd have to say that there are close to 100 ideas out there the aren't being heard by anyone.
Cheers
Jj

Wednesday March 17, 2010

Johnny Geetar, Oswaldtwistle, UK
top story,sometimes its enough just to get paid for the hours you put in?

Monday March 15, 2010

 


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